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Post by Admin on Oct 14, 2015 14:19:13 GMT
First, if you need a review of the Bechdel Test, check out this video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLF6sAAMb4sHere are a few questions to consider for this discussion: 1. In your own words, what is the Bechdel Test? 2. Apply this test to the last dozen or so video games you've played. What fraction pass this test. 3. In your opinion, do you think it's a problem that so many movies and games fail this test? Explain why or why not. 4. Provide a critical analysis of Sarkeesian's video. Do you think she did a good job framing this concept? Why or why not? Feel free to also add thoughts of your own to this discussion. Remember, Dr. Mo encourages disagreement and dissent, even if you're just playing devil's advocate!
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Post by NotEnoughTacoSalad on Oct 14, 2015 15:47:47 GMT
1. The Bechdel test is a three question test in which you ask "does this topic include more then one female, do they have names, and do they talk about something other then men." 2. 1 of the 3 video games did not pass the test. 3. I consider myself a feminist even though I am not a female haha. But I do not see this a a huge issue. Sure it would be nice to see better and more appropriate roles for females in video games, movies, etc. But I feel like the industry bases their stories and content around what the creator comes up with, NOT if females should play a role in it at all. 4. Sarkeesian's video explained very well what this concept is. It's provocative to the industry of media and entertainment. Which is completely fine. It really points out that entertainment doesn't shine a very good or bright light on females.
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Post by DovahCourier on Oct 14, 2015 15:48:58 GMT
1: The Bechdel Test is a way of telling if there is a female voice in media. You check if there are more than one named females, whom talk to each other about anything besides boys. 2: Most of the games I've played recently pass the test, this is because I tend to play large scale RPGs that have HUNDREDS of characters (Fallout, Elder Scrolls, etc...), so female characters tend to interact with each other a decent bit. 3: I believe it is a problem that females are demoted in modern media. I believe this because I personally think all people deserve equal treatment. This may sound like a cheesy answer, but it is true. We discriminate people because of gender, race, ethnicity, sexuality, lifestyle, etc, And this is horrible. I believe there should be nothing standing between us and a unified world (not to the level of Communism, but still unified to an extent) 4: Sarkeesian's video, in my opinion, was good. It brought up an important point and is a massive conversation starter.
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Post by BatmanBarry77 on Oct 14, 2015 15:51:14 GMT
For the 6 games I could think of off the top of my head, only 2 of them actually pass the Bechdel Test. It's sad to say most of the time females play supportive roles in a lot of games, or aren't present at all. We need more characters like Samus Aran from Meteoroid!!
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Post by shadowkissedyami on Oct 14, 2015 15:54:39 GMT
The Bechdel test is a test that movies go through to see is they have 1-more than 1 woman in it 2-do they talk to each other? and 3-do they talk to each other about anything other than a man? All of the games I've played don't pass this because they fail to meet those expectations. I think it kind of is a problem because it seems as if Hollywood is portraying males as a more strong ans superior gender even though females can be also as strong and powerful. I think she sort of did a good job. She could have talked a little more about why directors could add more on the fact that women deserve to be in movies to portray the strength of females.
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Post by fr3ak1nn00bs on Oct 14, 2015 15:55:23 GMT
The Bechdel Test is when in a movie, more than one female character is displayed, they talk to each other, and they talk about something other than a male character. I only played like 6 games in the past year probably and 1 of the games doesn't have any female characters. So I'd say that only 2 of those 6 games had female interaction to each other that doesn't have to be about a male. I don't think it's a problem because sometimes a movie can be based off real life events that doesn't any male or female characters. I think Sarkeesian did a good job I guess framing the concept because she gave a list of movies that failed the test and the reasons why she thinks they should be implement the test more to the movies.
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Post by thewhitexicon on Oct 14, 2015 15:56:14 GMT
1- the Bechdel test is a check to find out if there isn't any feminism in movies 2- 2/10 of the games i played passed this test 3- In my opinion i wouldn't mind if they failed the test because when I play games or watch a movie I look forward to the plot than the characters 4- Sarkeesian's video did a good job in proving her point but when showing her evidence she over did it by putting kid movies so she somewhat lost her point when showing her concept.
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Post by greymann on Oct 14, 2015 15:56:53 GMT
It is a shame to see how the media still doesn't highly use females as strong leading roles. There may be some out there but it is hard to compare it to the role of men, I personally would like to see more media sources use females as the leading role instead of the support role.
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Post by random239 on Oct 14, 2015 15:58:59 GMT
The Bechdel Test is a test that makes sure that women participate in a movie and have a bigger role. When I apply this test to the last dozen video games I've played only about 1/4 pass the test. I think that it is a problem that many movies and games fail this test because I feel that women should have more of a role in these types of entertainment rather than being uniteresting. I am not saying that all games and movies fail the test but it would be interesting to see other movies and video games giving a bigger role to women. I think that Sarkeesian did a good job framing the concept because she stated what the problem was but she didn't say that only women should have the main role in games or movies just give more roles to women.
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Post by Wendy on Oct 14, 2015 16:00:06 GMT
The Bechdel test is a test that is used to determine whether there is more than one female in movies and if so do they ever talk or interact with each other about anything other than men.
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Post by chopmansbrother on Oct 14, 2015 20:42:18 GMT
The Bechdel test is when you ask yourself three questions when playing a game of when you're watching a Movie. These three questions are... Are there at least two female characters with names? Are they talking to each other? Are they talking to each other about something other than men. I've found that 5/10 of the games and movies I have thought about pass this test. I don't believe it is a big issue to fuss about, however it would be nice to see more movies that pass this test and I am interested to see how entertaining these movies will be. I personally don't believe she did a good job of framing this concept because even though she provided examples and questions she never completely explained why this was a problem nor a solution or how it effects us as a human race.
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Post by GhostKillerHex on Oct 15, 2015 15:30:32 GMT
The bechdel test is a test that most movies and games don't pass. The test is about whether there are one or more women in a movie or game. Do they have names and do they speak to one another? If they do do they talk about anything other than a man? Considering this test 3/5 games that I've played do not exactly pass this test with flying colors. The main reason i thin k most of these games and movies don't pass the test id because they're trying to portray women in their own image and how, in their eyes, women look and behave to them. Sarkeesian's video provides a lot of ideas to think about and she did a fantastic job on framing how women are being portrayed in many movies and games. Also it's a problem that we need to consider because it's in a way no equal.
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